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(taken from the Jan/Feb 2007 issue of On Balance magazine)


Meeting of the Minds

Relationships Matter

By David Thome

Hiring people for entry-level accounting positions and neurobiology don’t have a lot in common, but neurobiology can shed light on what new employees and their employers have in common.

In his book, Social Intelligence, psychologist Daniel Goleman describes the mirror effect that occurs in brain activity when two people’s minds connect. Goleman told National Public Radio that technical competence is important, but "what distinguishes stars from average (employees) is how they manage themselves and handle relationships. Businesses are starting to put a premium on employees with social intelligence, people who will be good with clients, who will be good on a team, who will be good leaders."

What brain scientists are discovering empirically now many have known intuitively for years: Companies and employees mesh when their values and goals match up. That’s why parties on both sides of an interview should keep a few questions in mind. Questions like: tax or audit? Bustling city or quiet town? Buttoned down or party on?

"We look at every applicant’s resume, of course, but we also look at whether they’ll fit in," said Dave Rupp, CPA, in-charge accountant at Smith & Gesteland in Middleton. "We have a lot of outgoing personalities here and we plan social activities, like softball and volleyball, to build camaraderie. So we consider someone’s college grade-point average, and also whether they’re involved in activities or serve on student committees."

Ashlee Jenkins said "volleyball team" wasn’t on the checklist of must-haves in an employer, but the fact that Smith & Gesteland had one didn’t hurt her opinion of the firm. "They brought it up in my interview," the recent Edgewood College graduate said. "I interviewed with four firms, but the culture at S&G just seemed right. Everyone was friendly and helpful, and it was obvious that they weren’t over-the-top about dress code and hours."

The opportunity to register a monster spike wasn’t all Jenkins had on her mind, though: She realized she’d have little opportunity for career advancement if she stayed at the company where she interned. "There were only two people in my department, and I wasn’t really doing what I wanted to do," Jenkins said. "A friend of mine worked at S&G and from what she said, it sounded like a place I wanted to be."

Things clicked when Jenkins interviewed with representatives of the firm on campus—especially when she mentioned she’d like to work toward being a partner. "They were very supportive of that," she said.

While Jenkins did not intern at Smith & Gesteland, many firms find internships useful in identifying future entry-level hires. That’s how Virchow, Krause & Co. found Elijah Watt Sells Award winner Peter Wick. "An internship gives the firm and a prospective employee four months to determine if the fit is right. Everyone makes an informed decision when it’s time to decide on a full-time offer," said Kevin Loomans, CPA, partner-in-charge of Virchow Krause’s Appleton office.

Wick, who managed a grocery store while working his way through accounting at the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh, said he was looking for a full-time position when Virchow, Krause offered him an internship. He accepted because the internship would give him experience in tax and audit.

"One firm wanted me to choose between going the tax route or the audit route upfront, but right out of college, you have no idea," said Wick, who recorded one of the top 10 scores in the nation on his CPA Exam last year. "I was leaning toward audit, but after I got some exposure to it at VK, I knew it was exactly what I did not want to do."

He said he found tax challenging and, before the internship was half completed, he knew Virchow, Krause was exactly where he wanted to work. Not that he was surprised: A 30-minute interview and an office visit in which he met several employees already had him feeling good about the position. Said the Neenah native, "I wanted to work at a firm that had a large presence in that area, that had a reputation for honesty and ethical behavior, and where I’d be comfortable for the long term."

Those desires meshed nicely with Virchow, Krause’s values, Loomans said: "We knew Peter had technical ability, but he really impressed us with his interpersonal skills during the interview. We need people who can help clients and the community at large understand highly technical issues. During the interview, I ask candidates to tell me about themselves so I can see if they have the interpersonal skills to be successful in public accounting, if they’re passionate about their career, and find out about other areas that interest them."

Is it possible to say "passionate" and "accounting" in the same breath? Keith McAlister, CPA, internal audit manager for Harley-Davidson thought he saw a passion for accounting in Maria Juarez when she was still in high school and both were involved in the National Association of Black Accountants.

"We get a lot of people who say they wouldn’t mind working at Harley," McAlister said, "but the question is whether they want to work in internal audit in a corporate setting. It’s not something that’s usually taught in college."

Juarez said she didn’t know the answer until she interned at the Milwaukee manufacturing firm. "I interviewed at other companies, but most of them had positions I wasn’t interested in," said Juarez, a recent Alverno College graduate who moved into a full-time position at the beginning of 2007. "During my internship, I found out I liked internal audit and the culture and people at Harley."

McAlister said that in addition to her excellent academic credentials, Juarez had demonstrated the ability to work on projects with other people. This brings us back to neurobiology.

Goleman points out in Social Intelligence that most of the "mirroring" our brains do when we’re engaged with other people happens unconsciously. So, it’s possible that entry-level job applicants know more than they think they know when they leave an interview feeling that a position is right. Likewise, managers going with gut feelings may be acting more wisely than even they would concede. On the other hand, these decisions don’t have to be left to chance if interviewees and the people who hire them ask the right questions.

And, hey, you don’t have to be a brain scientist. Just be attentive and prepared.


Dave Thome is a feature writer at Emerald Isle Marketing Public Relations in New Berlin. He can be reached at dave@emeraldislepr.com or (262) 780-0841.

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